How will ruling affect smoking ban?

MOUNT VERNON — Franklin County Common Pleas Judge David Cain recently ruled the state of Ohio exceeded its authority to fine business owners for violations of the state’s no smoking laws.

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  • ALUMNI

    Hi Ho, Hi Ho
    All smokers thet must go
    They are such pigs, must have their cigs
    Hi Ho,
    Hi Ho, Hi Ho
    Hi Ho, Hi Ho
    All smokers they dont know
    From 9 to 3
    They smell like sleeze
    Hi Ho, Hi Ho, Hi Ho
    Hi Ho, Hi Ho
    All smokers you should know
    All day with ease
    You spread disease
    Hi Ho, Hi Ho

    • John C. Davidson

      Real cute. At some point you may find it isn’t so funny when the government tells you you are going to jail for being a ridiculous poet.

  • EDK

    Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t the people of Ohio vote to ban smoking? I don’t recall our elected officials pushing the law on anyone. The majority voted to ban and the majority won!

    I smoked for almost 15 years. The best thing I ever did for my health was to quit. I don’t understand why smokers think every one is out to get them. Banning smoking is better for everyone’s health. Get a clue!

    • Inquiring Mind

      Hey, EDK, great for you that you quit smoking. Now get off your self-righteous high horse. Sometimes there’s nothing worse than an EX-smoker.

      Perhaps banning motorcycle riding, car racing, sky diving, hang gliding, fast-food restaurants, soda pop, sugar, fried foods and of course all alchol would be better for everyone’s health. Let’s ban them too!

    • John C. Davidson

      I believe there was a clause in the bill that some self-righteous law-maker found a way to sub-vert. It was suppose to allow private clubs the right to smoke. You people want to ban everything that some politician says is bad for your health. I find it bad for my health to seek care in a hospital full of drug mandates; electronic devices restricting my movements. Our society is so unindated with laws, we can’t stop someone from stealing a child’s bicycle. Have another glass of city water; make sure there’s not too much chorine in it before you do.

    • woodyj

      there were two bans voted on. one sounded better than the other. but there was no option to vote against a smoking ban.

      • John C. Davidson

        Most people I discussed this issue with were led to believe that Veteran’s clubs would no be involved, but when they inserted a clause in the law banning it from clubs that had employees. Then our governor asked the courts to rule. He knew the language had to be changed in the legislative branch. That’s what we’re all dealing with these buck passers we elect. Most of them lack spine.

  • Smoker

    Why should non smokers be able to tell me how to run my business?
    I started it I invested my money and time in it and gave the choice for people to give me there business or not.
    It’s a persons choice to be there or not, if they don’t like the smoking they should leave. No one is forcing them to enter or stay. If this is a free country then the choice is up to you I own the business and the way I run my business should be my choice not yours.So how hard is it go or stay.

  • Miriam St Jean

    Poor Alumni

    he/she forgot to mention the #1 cause of death – heart disease

    smoking causes heart disease – so does being fat

    so, alumni, when are you going to take up the cause against all the fat people in the world, eh? ever go to walmart? if you outlaw fat, walmart will go out of business, dude

    am sitting here chucking to myself over all some of the self-righteous b.s. I see on here

    but then, laughter is good for the soul

  • Alumni

    Same old smoker’s retoric. With a little luck, we can ban smoking in public too! Go Ohio go!

  • Inquiring Mind

    Alumni said “Oh, by the way I forgot to mention. Lung cancer is the number 1 killer of Americans‚Äî-not fat people‚Äî‚Äìnot diabetics‚Äî‚Äìnothing else, period!”

    Oh, by the way, you forgot to mention – many people with lung cancer NEVER smoked.

    Just as many people with chirrosis of the liver, never drank alcholic beverages.

  • red dragon hawk

    and the leading cause of death is not smokeing….its birth

  • red dragon hawk

    now mabye the businesses and bars can recover from the losses suffered at the hands of misguided lawmakers

  • Alumni

    Oh, by the way I forgot to mention. Lung cancer is the number 1 killer of Americans—-not fat people—–not diabetics—–nothing else, period!

    • Inquiring Mind

      Alumni said “Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette.
      Puff, puff, puff and when you smoke your life to death
      Just tell Peter at the pearly gate,
      That he’s going to half to wait
      I just gotta have another cigarette.”

      If you’re gonna say it, say it correctly:

      Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette.
      Puff, puff, puff it til you smoke yourself to death.
      Tell St. Peter at the pearly gate,
      He’s just gonna HAVE to wait –
      I just gotta have another cigarette.

      :)

  • Mr. Jimmy

    Smoking is vile, gross and disgusting. I hate it. Plus it’s carcinogenic. I hate being around it. And people should have the right to do it. Business’s should have the right to allow it, just as I have the right to not patronize them.

  • Inquiring Mind

    Alumni said “With health insurance, they are the ones who should be eliminated for pre-existing conditions, not the diabetics, etc.”

    Following that line of thinking, let’s eliminate those who willfully engage in dangerous habits such as motorcycle riding, racing cars, sky-diving, snowboarding, snow skiing, and anything else the general public deems dangerous.

    Ever heard of the proverbial “slippery slope?” You’re headed down it as we speak.

  • Bob

    Many smokers now bring their little “pocket ashtrays with a closing lid” to bars. That takes the owners off the hook after they tell the customers that they can be fined if they are caught smoking.

  • Inquiring Mind

    Peter said “Let‚Äôs also not forget that non-smokers now make up at least 80 percent of the adult population and all kids.”

    Reall, all kids? Define kid for me. I used to live one block from a grade school and I can tell you from personal observation that not ALL kids are non-smokers.

  • Miriam St. Jean

    Alumni stated:

    “With health insurance, they are the ones who should be eliminated for pre-existing conditions, not the diabetics, etc.”

    Singling out smokers, are ya? How about fat people, who choose to be fat people, who become diabetics because they choose to be fat, who raise fat children, who also become diabetics? Hm?

    Maybe we should outlaw obesity like we did smoking – would be sure to save the health industry billions

    gppd grief

    • John C. Davidson

      Thanks, I just had to add a bit more, though.

  • Peter

    Smoking is a personal thing when you do it away from non-smokers. When you smoke indoors where the smoke is trapped it harms the health of all of the non-smokers. Let’s also not forget that non-smokers now make up at least 80 percent of the adult population and all kids.

    • woodyj

      you better check your percentages again. about half the people i know who smoke are kids

  • jim bechtol

    I think the state is going out “free country” getting involved with smoking.
    That should be a peronal thing and not state law.

  • ALUMNI

    Smokers are hazards to our health, an astronomical burden on our health system and most are just plain RUDE—-butts on the sidewalk, butts on the beach, butts on the lawn. I do not care about their selfish so-called rights. I say make em pay, big time. I once ate at Mazza’s before it closed. What a filthy place, with nicotine on the ceiling and light fixtures. And oh the aroma with your dinner—-yum, yum.
    With health insurance, they are the ones who should be eliminated for pre-existing conditions, not the diabetics, etc.

    Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette.
    Puff, puff, puff and when you smoke your life to death
    Just tell Peter at the pearly gate,
    That he’s going to half to wait
    I just gotta have another cigarette.

    • John C. Davidson

      Exhaling carbon dioxide is also hazardous along with the foul smell emanating from those who fail to brush their teeth. Shall we fine everyone with a gum disease. What is next? What happened to individual accountability. We no longer can contain crime financially but the new laws keep piling up. I don’t like pizza, ban it. Make sense, sir.