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		<title>By: dick</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/03/21/congress-approves-historic-health-care-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-2136</link>
		<dc:creator>dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article in the WSJ about Obamacare Day One:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141642402986422.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_opinion

If this is true, then the results of the boondoggle legislation will be even more devastating that expected.  Let&#039;s just hope that the public remembers in Nov all the bribes and payoffs and all the damage that this bill brings to the nation and what the real effect it will have on the productive members of society.  What is scary is that close to 50% of the public do not pay income tax and even some of them get back money they never even paid into the coffers.  When you consider that, then the cost to the productive public is going to be even worse than the CBO admitted to and that figure makes no sense at all.  What Obama is counting on is that by delaying the start of the takings and even more the paying for this bill he can stay in office because it will not have really hit the public yet what the ramifications of what they wrought.  When the public does find out what the true cost of this will be, then the anger will really come out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article in the WSJ about Obamacare Day One:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141642402986422.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_opinion" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141642402986422.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_opinion</a></p>
<p>If this is true, then the results of the boondoggle legislation will be even more devastating that expected.  Let&#8217;s just hope that the public remembers in Nov all the bribes and payoffs and all the damage that this bill brings to the nation and what the real effect it will have on the productive members of society.  What is scary is that close to 50% of the public do not pay income tax and even some of them get back money they never even paid into the coffers.  When you consider that, then the cost to the productive public is going to be even worse than the CBO admitted to and that figure makes no sense at all.  What Obama is counting on is that by delaying the start of the takings and even more the paying for this bill he can stay in office because it will not have really hit the public yet what the ramifications of what they wrought.  When the public does find out what the true cost of this will be, then the anger will really come out.</p>
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		<title>By: GL</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/03/21/congress-approves-historic-health-care-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-2135</link>
		<dc:creator>GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Page 30, section 133) THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that DECIDES what treatments you will receive.
The language of the bill indicates the panel shall RECOMMEND ‚Äî not dictate ‚Äî appropriate treatments and coverages.

(Page 42) The Healthcare Commisioner will CHOOSE your Healthcare benifits for you.
The committee will set standards not dictate benefits.

(Page 50, section 152) Healthcare will be provided to ALL NON-U.S. Citizens, illegal or otherwise.
This section has absolutely nothing to do with providing insurance coverage to non-citizens.

I could go on and on refuting each of the above &quot;Chilling&quot; points. The fact of the matter is, these are just a few examples of how the bill has been mis-charactorized by those who do not care a whit about their fellow Americans. All they care about is Obama and the Democratic party failing at whatever they try to do. And I do not attribute tis to any group in general. BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO CARE ABOUT NOTING ELSE EXCEPT THE FAILURE OF OBAMA, THE CONSEQUENCES BE DAMNED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Page 30, section 133) THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that DECIDES what treatments you will receive.<br />
The language of the bill indicates the panel shall RECOMMEND ‚Äî not dictate ‚Äî appropriate treatments and coverages.</p>
<p>(Page 42) The Healthcare Commisioner will CHOOSE your Healthcare benifits for you.<br />
The committee will set standards not dictate benefits.</p>
<p>(Page 50, section 152) Healthcare will be provided to ALL NON-U.S. Citizens, illegal or otherwise.<br />
This section has absolutely nothing to do with providing insurance coverage to non-citizens.</p>
<p>I could go on and on refuting each of the above &#8220;Chilling&#8221; points. The fact of the matter is, these are just a few examples of how the bill has been mis-charactorized by those who do not care a whit about their fellow Americans. All they care about is Obama and the Democratic party failing at whatever they try to do. And I do not attribute tis to any group in general. BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO CARE ABOUT NOTING ELSE EXCEPT THE FAILURE OF OBAMA, THE CONSEQUENCES BE DAMNED.</p>
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		<title>By: excuse me</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/03/21/congress-approves-historic-health-care-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-2134</link>
		<dc:creator>excuse me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and you think this is breaking news. this has been going on for years. it is the republican way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you think this is breaking news. this has been going on for years. it is the republican way.</p>
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		<title>By: excuse me</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/03/21/congress-approves-historic-health-care-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-2133</link>
		<dc:creator>excuse me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well if you consider fox news the only news organization that has &quot;real news&quot; and it isnt swayed to your beliefs you are not an educated person. 

Even my most conservative friends who agree with fox news and their take on the government do not believe fox is truthful all the time. they sway their opinion to the conservative right just like MSNBC is tilted to the left. if you understand that going into the their news program then you have to understand that they are not truthful in how they report the news. 

i am a liberal minded individual. but even as i watch msnbc, cnn and fox i have to understand that the reporting is not always accurate. the most accurate and unbiased new organization is PBS and NPR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well if you consider fox news the only news organization that has &#8220;real news&#8221; and it isnt swayed to your beliefs you are not an educated person. </p>
<p>Even my most conservative friends who agree with fox news and their take on the government do not believe fox is truthful all the time. they sway their opinion to the conservative right just like MSNBC is tilted to the left. if you understand that going into the their news program then you have to understand that they are not truthful in how they report the news. </p>
<p>i am a liberal minded individual. but even as i watch msnbc, cnn and fox i have to understand that the reporting is not always accurate. the most accurate and unbiased new organization is PBS and NPR.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[off base but legite.
can we get the mayor and his cronies off the back of the taxi company.
one  week it runs. two weeks later they are not allowed.
county needs their quota you know.  i wanted to go uptown,
w/ the wife, have a good meal and a fine wine.
taxi us SAFELY home.  but no.  so we chose to stay home and not
spend money at these locations.  so for the mayors issues the 
community suffers.  i&#039;d have his ars in a columbus court to answer for my
lost revenue(because we know the courts are biased here) if it were me.
just my opinion]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off base but legite.<br />
can we get the mayor and his cronies off the back of the taxi company.<br />
one  week it runs. two weeks later they are not allowed.<br />
county needs their quota you know.  i wanted to go uptown,<br />
w/ the wife, have a good meal and a fine wine.<br />
taxi us SAFELY home.  but no.  so we chose to stay home and not<br />
spend money at these locations.  so for the mayors issues the<br />
community suffers.  i&#8217;d have his ars in a columbus court to answer for my<br />
lost revenue(because we know the courts are biased here) if it were me.<br />
just my opinion</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may be a little off topic.. My fiance works at a large insurance company.. Guess where most of their work is routed to.. OVERSEAS! Now thats our money we pay them not being circulated back into the American Society. Instead the circle of flow is being routed to Indonesia and other places in the middle east. Of course you dont know.. Thats because their customer support team is only stationed in America..  The whole fact of this is, companies like Verizon, AT&amp;T, Direct TV.. ETC.. re-route alot of their work to these other places outside of the U.S. which save their Coporations buko bucks.. But in the long run it breaks the circle of flow in our states.. Due to the fact of people that could have those jobs living right here in the U.S. And its not like since they pay less for workers over there you see our prices being cut.. YEAH RIGHT.. Health premiums are still the same or higher..etc.. What we need to do is come together as a real Country should and be a REAL team.. We wouldnt have to worry about this bull about the face value of our dollar.. PERIOD..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a little off topic.. My fiance works at a large insurance company.. Guess where most of their work is routed to.. OVERSEAS! Now thats our money we pay them not being circulated back into the American Society. Instead the circle of flow is being routed to Indonesia and other places in the middle east. Of course you dont know.. Thats because their customer support team is only stationed in America..  The whole fact of this is, companies like Verizon, AT&#038;T, Direct TV.. ETC.. re-route alot of their work to these other places outside of the U.S. which save their Coporations buko bucks.. But in the long run it breaks the circle of flow in our states.. Due to the fact of people that could have those jobs living right here in the U.S. And its not like since they pay less for workers over there you see our prices being cut.. YEAH RIGHT.. Health premiums are still the same or higher..etc.. What we need to do is come together as a real Country should and be a REAL team.. We wouldnt have to worry about this bull about the face value of our dollar.. PERIOD..</p>
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		<title>By: dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And a lot of the Attorneys general who are filling the suit are filing it at the direction of their state legislatures.  They are not doing it on their own.  The states will have to pick up the big costs of this boondoggle if it ever goes into effect because of the Medicaid requirements.  They will also have to deal with the insurance companies because the states are the ones who regulate the insurance companies even after this mess was passed.  So what we have is a federal government who determines on their own what to require in the way of insurance and they will tell the states who then have to levy this against the insurance companies because the insurance companies cannot sell across state lines.  And you are complaining about the fact that republican attorneys general are filing suit?   There are 39 out of 50 states that will file suit either alone or as a class action.  That means that so far only 11 states and the people who enforce the laws in those states are supporting this bill - and that include Ohio in the first suit.

You may not be happy with Zack Space but you should not be surprised.  He was luckily one of the ones that San Fran Nan permitted to oppose the bill because she realized he was in a district that really was up in arms over it.   Just check the comments here and count how many are in favor and how many not.  Strange that Zack Space was all in favor of the bill right up until just a couple of days before the vote.   Then he voted against it.  Guess maybe the calls to his various offices might have something to do with that.  You can bet it was not done out of his strong beliefs.  It was done for strictly political reasons.   The man does not have an ethical bone in his body - or is that head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a lot of the Attorneys general who are filling the suit are filing it at the direction of their state legislatures.  They are not doing it on their own.  The states will have to pick up the big costs of this boondoggle if it ever goes into effect because of the Medicaid requirements.  They will also have to deal with the insurance companies because the states are the ones who regulate the insurance companies even after this mess was passed.  So what we have is a federal government who determines on their own what to require in the way of insurance and they will tell the states who then have to levy this against the insurance companies because the insurance companies cannot sell across state lines.  And you are complaining about the fact that republican attorneys general are filing suit?   There are 39 out of 50 states that will file suit either alone or as a class action.  That means that so far only 11 states and the people who enforce the laws in those states are supporting this bill &#8211; and that include Ohio in the first suit.</p>
<p>You may not be happy with Zack Space but you should not be surprised.  He was luckily one of the ones that San Fran Nan permitted to oppose the bill because she realized he was in a district that really was up in arms over it.   Just check the comments here and count how many are in favor and how many not.  Strange that Zack Space was all in favor of the bill right up until just a couple of days before the vote.   Then he voted against it.  Guess maybe the calls to his various offices might have something to do with that.  You can bet it was not done out of his strong beliefs.  It was done for strictly political reasons.   The man does not have an ethical bone in his body &#8211; or is that head.</p>
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		<title>By: dick</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/03/21/congress-approves-historic-health-care-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-2121</link>
		<dc:creator>dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually the approval rating for the house and senate are hovering around 12%.  Approval for Sen Reid is around 8% and for San Fran Nan is about 12%.

The president&#039;s rating is a lot higher but still less than 50%  and sinking as we speak.  The strong approval is running about 20%.  When you check the independents the approval of Obama is around 25% and that is the one that will decide the next election, the independent voters.   The Dems are losing them hand over fist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the approval rating for the house and senate are hovering around 12%.  Approval for Sen Reid is around 8% and for San Fran Nan is about 12%.</p>
<p>The president&#8217;s rating is a lot higher but still less than 50%  and sinking as we speak.  The strong approval is running about 20%.  When you check the independents the approval of Obama is around 25% and that is the one that will decide the next election, the independent voters.   The Dems are losing them hand over fist.</p>
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		<title>By: hazeleyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazeleyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh honey I am not a lost soul! lol You should be sorry!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh honey I am not a lost soul! lol You should be sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: John C. Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C. Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because you claim your opinions are not biased, yet others are. How do you know Fox is biased? What&#039;s you credibility to make such a statement, sir. Have you even thought to read Dr. Thomas Sowells articles. 

Quash, above lists quite a few excerps from the health bill. I suppose those aren&#039;t facts. Stop making political comments of liuttle substance and I won&#039;t have to debate you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because you claim your opinions are not biased, yet others are. How do you know Fox is biased? What&#8217;s you credibility to make such a statement, sir. Have you even thought to read Dr. Thomas Sowells articles. </p>
<p>Quash, above lists quite a few excerps from the health bill. I suppose those aren&#8217;t facts. Stop making political comments of liuttle substance and I won&#8217;t have to debate you.</p>
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