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	<title>Comments on: Court rules on Freshwater civil suit</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Stickle</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2478</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Stickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Buffyjoi 

Judge Gregory Frost had this to say about the use of the Tesla coil (4-06-10):

&quot;Freshwater had been applying the Tesla coil to his student&#039;s arms for approximately 21 years, with not one reported injury. Over 600 students, in Freshwater&#039;s classes alone, had the Tesla coil applied to their arms without incident. Moreover, two other science teachers engaged in the same Tesla coil experiment with their students, one for over 20 years. These teachers too never had a reported injury resulting from the experiment.&quot;

Judge Frost wrote, in describing the background to the federal case, that (4-6-10):

&quot;On December 7, 2007, the day after the incident, ZD&#039;s parents met with the Superintendent of the Mount Vernon School District, Stephen Short. They indicated to Superintendent Short that they wanted an investigation of the Tesla coil incident, but were adamant that they did not want Freshwater legally prosecuted or terminated. ZD&#039;s parents stressed that their goal was to prevent Freshwater from demonstrating the effects of the Tesla coil on any other students.‚Äù

Interestingly, the Dennis family got everything for which they initially asked. The school instructed Freshwater to not allow any further students to touch the spark from the Tesla coil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Buffyjoi </p>
<p>Judge Gregory Frost had this to say about the use of the Tesla coil (4-06-10):</p>
<p>&#8220;Freshwater had been applying the Tesla coil to his student&#8217;s arms for approximately 21 years, with not one reported injury. Over 600 students, in Freshwater&#8217;s classes alone, had the Tesla coil applied to their arms without incident. Moreover, two other science teachers engaged in the same Tesla coil experiment with their students, one for over 20 years. These teachers too never had a reported injury resulting from the experiment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Judge Frost wrote, in describing the background to the federal case, that (4-6-10):</p>
<p>&#8220;On December 7, 2007, the day after the incident, ZD&#8217;s parents met with the Superintendent of the Mount Vernon School District, Stephen Short. They indicated to Superintendent Short that they wanted an investigation of the Tesla coil incident, but were adamant that they did not want Freshwater legally prosecuted or terminated. ZD&#8217;s parents stressed that their goal was to prevent Freshwater from demonstrating the effects of the Tesla coil on any other students.‚Äù</p>
<p>Interestingly, the Dennis family got everything for which they initially asked. The school instructed Freshwater to not allow any further students to touch the spark from the Tesla coil.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Stickle</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2477</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Stickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is only an allegation that Freshwater taught creationism or referenced the Bible during class. Freshwater testified that he did not teach creationism or intelligent design.

Freshwater excelled as an eighth grade science teacher. According to Judge Gregory Frost (12-08-09):

&quot;During the 2007-2008 school year, Freshwater&#039;s students, as a group, earned the highest proficiency scores on the standardized Ohio Achievement Tests when comparing Freshwater&#039;s students&#039; scores to all of the other eighth grade groups taught by any other teacher employed by the Board of Education. Freshwater was the only Mount Vernon Middle School science teacher who achieved a &#039;passing&#039; score on the Ohio Achievement Test despite Freshwater having the most students with individualized education plans. Eighty-nine percent of Freshwater‚Äôs students achieved a passing score on the topic of &#039;Evolutionary Theory,&#039; a topic within the &#039;Life Science&#039; curriculum.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is only an allegation that Freshwater taught creationism or referenced the Bible during class. Freshwater testified that he did not teach creationism or intelligent design.</p>
<p>Freshwater excelled as an eighth grade science teacher. According to Judge Gregory Frost (12-08-09):</p>
<p>&#8220;During the 2007-2008 school year, Freshwater&#8217;s students, as a group, earned the highest proficiency scores on the standardized Ohio Achievement Tests when comparing Freshwater&#8217;s students&#8217; scores to all of the other eighth grade groups taught by any other teacher employed by the Board of Education. Freshwater was the only Mount Vernon Middle School science teacher who achieved a &#8216;passing&#8217; score on the Ohio Achievement Test despite Freshwater having the most students with individualized education plans. Eighty-nine percent of Freshwater‚Äôs students achieved a passing score on the topic of &#8216;Evolutionary Theory,&#8217; a topic within the &#8216;Life Science&#8217; curriculum.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Manti</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2452</link>
		<dc:creator>Manti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude. Get over yourself. Christianity is the only majority that&#039;s ever whined about being persecuted. GROW UP. NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES YOUR WAY AND THAT DOESN&#039;T MAKE THEM BAD PEOPLE!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude. Get over yourself. Christianity is the only majority that&#8217;s ever whined about being persecuted. GROW UP. NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES YOUR WAY AND THAT DOESN&#8217;T MAKE THEM BAD PEOPLE!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Morrison</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2448</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;/local/10/04/09/mvboe-attorney-backed-by-judge&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MVBOE attorney backed by judge&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/local/10/04/09/mvboe-attorney-backed-by-judge" rel="nofollow">MVBOE attorney backed by judge</a></p>
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		<title>By: hazeleyes</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2447</link>
		<dc:creator>hazeleyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go ahead and mock me! I really don&#039;t care. You are the same kind of people that persecuted Christ right before he was crucified! Only difference is, you CAN&#039;T DO THAT TO ME! NOT FOR HAVING AN OPINION! MY RIGHTS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead and mock me! I really don&#8217;t care. You are the same kind of people that persecuted Christ right before he was crucified! Only difference is, you CAN&#8217;T DO THAT TO ME! NOT FOR HAVING AN OPINION! MY RIGHTS!</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam St Jean</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2446</link>
		<dc:creator>Miriam St Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s an article in the Columbus Dispatch about another recent ruling that went against &quot;team freshwater&quot; - the ensuing comments are quite telling about how this whole affair (and the people in this community) are being perceived by others.......

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/columbus-dispatch/TTC99MLICRGGU265G

&quot;right wing god hounds&quot;

&quot;gun toting militia inspired rhetoric&quot;

somewhat on point.  embarrassing, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an article in the Columbus Dispatch about another recent ruling that went against &#8220;team freshwater&#8221; &#8211; the ensuing comments are quite telling about how this whole affair (and the people in this community) are being perceived by others&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.topix.net/forum/source/columbus-dispatch/TTC99MLICRGGU265G" rel="nofollow">http://www.topix.net/forum/source/columbus-dispatch/TTC99MLICRGGU265G</a></p>
<p>&#8220;right wing god hounds&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;gun toting militia inspired rhetoric&#8221;</p>
<p>somewhat on point.  embarrassing, too.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2444</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[protect him from what?  i hope he stays safe---at home!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>protect him from what?  i hope he stays safe&#8212;at home!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2443</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[because god has NO place in school.  if he is part of your life, great.  if he is part of 78% of students lives, great.  but it is not the schools job to sponsor your christianity.  school is to learn information to prepare you for life - and not your religious life.  let parents teach religion.  let churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, support religion.  oh, there is more than christianity?!  keep schools neutral.  keep schools a safe place for learning.  keep religion to yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because god has NO place in school.  if he is part of your life, great.  if he is part of 78% of students lives, great.  but it is not the schools job to sponsor your christianity.  school is to learn information to prepare you for life &#8211; and not your religious life.  let parents teach religion.  let churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, support religion.  oh, there is more than christianity?!  keep schools neutral.  keep schools a safe place for learning.  keep religion to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2442</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what do you mean you &quot;believe he is innocent&quot;?  what you actually mean is you condone keeping religion in the schools.   i am part of the lynch mob because he has proven year after year that he does not follow the guidelines for teaching in a public school.  i am a catholic but i am a strong believer of keeping your religion to yourself.  we have seen throughout history what happens when that doesn&#039;t occur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do you mean you &#8220;believe he is innocent&#8221;?  what you actually mean is you condone keeping religion in the schools.   i am part of the lynch mob because he has proven year after year that he does not follow the guidelines for teaching in a public school.  i am a catholic but i am a strong believer of keeping your religion to yourself.  we have seen throughout history what happens when that doesn&#8217;t occur.</p>
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		<title>By: CincyGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.mountvernonnews.com/blog/2010/04/08/court-rules-on-freshwater-civil-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-2440</link>
		<dc:creator>CincyGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time I visit my home here, I pick up the newspaper and read about this Freshwater thing. The miracle of our Constitution is that it&#039;s not vague...very clear and concise. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Read my lips...SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!  A public school teacher advocating Christianity in a state-supported institution is illegal.  I&#039;m a devout Christian, but I&#039;m not an idiot when it comes to law!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I visit my home here, I pick up the newspaper and read about this Freshwater thing. The miracle of our Constitution is that it&#8217;s not vague&#8230;very clear and concise. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Read my lips&#8230;SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!  A public school teacher advocating Christianity in a state-supported institution is illegal.  I&#8217;m a devout Christian, but I&#8217;m not an idiot when it comes to law!</p>
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