yes WAL-MART for one .
August 30, 2008, 9:51 am
Providing sick leave can be destructive because people
always take advantage of it---even if they are not genuinely
sick. If everyone would be 100 percent honest, it might
work, but, unfortunately, people aren\'t that way!
always take advantage of it---even if they are not genuinely
sick. If everyone would be 100 percent honest, it might
work, but, unfortunately, people aren\'t that way!
August 30, 2008, 11:54 am
It\'s a shame politicians will chase employers out of the
State or Country for a few more votes. \"We The
People\" gotta take back control folks. Term limits is
the only way to go.
State or Country for a few more votes. \"We The
People\" gotta take back control folks. Term limits is
the only way to go.
August 30, 2008, 12:15 pm
Paid sick leave is not going to kill Ohio business. The same
arguments were made in California when the issue came up on
their ballots a while back and there was hardly any impact
on the businesses OR the economy after it went into effect.
There are many ways the sick leave can be setup, including
earning your sick days. The unfortunate reality is that too
many businesses that COULD give paid sick days refuse to.
John hit the nail on the head with pointing out Wal-Mart as
one of them. They certainly will not go out of business by
allowing employees to have paid sick days. As for the few
who abuse this policy, the companies can always require a
doctor\'s note to be produced within a set time period to
approve the paid day off whether it was taken for a personal
illness or a family member\'s illness. The bill is not
saying the days have to be given on the honor system or
without being earned in some fashion. The current
\"earned sick day\" problem with a lot of
companies is they require almost a full year\'s worth of
time before you are allowed to take a sick day or two
without your job being jeopardized. No one backing the bill
is saying the sick days can be used to take a week\'s
vacation.
arguments were made in California when the issue came up on
their ballots a while back and there was hardly any impact
on the businesses OR the economy after it went into effect.
There are many ways the sick leave can be setup, including
earning your sick days. The unfortunate reality is that too
many businesses that COULD give paid sick days refuse to.
John hit the nail on the head with pointing out Wal-Mart as
one of them. They certainly will not go out of business by
allowing employees to have paid sick days. As for the few
who abuse this policy, the companies can always require a
doctor\'s note to be produced within a set time period to
approve the paid day off whether it was taken for a personal
illness or a family member\'s illness. The bill is not
saying the days have to be given on the honor system or
without being earned in some fashion. The current
\"earned sick day\" problem with a lot of
companies is they require almost a full year\'s worth of
time before you are allowed to take a sick day or two
without your job being jeopardized. No one backing the bill
is saying the sick days can be used to take a week\'s
vacation.
August 30, 2008, 12:30 pm
I believe businesses should be required to give paid sick
days at employee\'s current wage per hour. When my husband
contracted cancer he was able to collect short term
disabilty but it was a reduced rate and for only six weeks.
Even then he had to miss certain amount days before he could
be obtain that pay. For three full months we had no income
Thank God for the VA because they sustain us until the
Social Security Disability came into play and then he was
only able to collect one check before he died.
days at employee\'s current wage per hour. When my husband
contracted cancer he was able to collect short term
disabilty but it was a reduced rate and for only six weeks.
Even then he had to miss certain amount days before he could
be obtain that pay. For three full months we had no income
Thank God for the VA because they sustain us until the
Social Security Disability came into play and then he was
only able to collect one check before he died.
August 30, 2008, 2:15 pm
Try reading the issue again, Samatha. There are limitations
on when you can ask for DR notes, and for those of you that
think Walmart won\'t raise their prices to cover the sick
leave...guess again. ALSO, we will be the ONLY state with
such a mandate, so goodbye to all our jobs. Why set up shop
in Ohio, when Kentucky doesn\'t have the mandate. It will
be a bookkepping nightmare, will drive away business, and it
will hurt the economy.
on when you can ask for DR notes, and for those of you that
think Walmart won\'t raise their prices to cover the sick
leave...guess again. ALSO, we will be the ONLY state with
such a mandate, so goodbye to all our jobs. Why set up shop
in Ohio, when Kentucky doesn\'t have the mandate. It will
be a bookkepping nightmare, will drive away business, and it
will hurt the economy.
August 30, 2008, 2:53 pm
It will need to be done on a global scale or you can say
bye-bye to more Ohio businesses. This bill will scare more
of them off.
bye-bye to more Ohio businesses. This bill will scare more
of them off.
August 30, 2008, 5:02 pm
If employees were treated fairly from the beginning
government wouldn\'t have to try and instiute these
rediculous policies. We wouldn\'t even unions for that
matter!! But you can\'t get buisess owners to cooperate. How
about getting rid of these temporary hiring agencies?? What
a joke of the way they mistreat employees!!!! IT\'S ALL
ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
government wouldn\'t have to try and instiute these
rediculous policies. We wouldn\'t even unions for that
matter!! But you can\'t get buisess owners to cooperate. How
about getting rid of these temporary hiring agencies?? What
a joke of the way they mistreat employees!!!! IT\'S ALL
ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
August 30, 2008, 8:40 pm
if this goes through, the 1st time i suspect its being
abused i will start cutting positions. we 22 people on
payroll at this time. i will cut 3 people loose. i can
promise you i now who the 3 will be,they are proably making
plans for their sick days time off already.
abused i will start cutting positions. we 22 people on
payroll at this time. i will cut 3 people loose. i can
promise you i now who the 3 will be,they are proably making
plans for their sick days time off already.
September 1, 2008, 8:01 am
There\'s no such thing as \'paid vacation\' or \'paid sick
time\'. Compensation is based on hours worked; if it gets
paid over the course of 52 weeks instead of 50 (for
instance) the overall amount the employee gets is still the
same.
That said, the government has no right to
tell a business what it can / cannot do. Employement is a
private contract between the person providing the labor and
the person requiring the labor. The idea of \'benefits\' is
a fallout of the imperious FDR era when he froze wages
during WWII. Companies found that offering benefits in lieu
of wages helped attract better candidates. Nowadays people
feel entitled to \'benefits\' even though there\'s no real
benefit. It\'s calculated as a part of a total compensation
package. Only a government bureaucrat --likely someone who
has zero experience in private enterprise-- could come up
with an asinine concept like \'paid sick time\'. It only
plays well in the press & with those who went to public
school.
time\'. Compensation is based on hours worked; if it gets
paid over the course of 52 weeks instead of 50 (for
instance) the overall amount the employee gets is still the
same.
That said, the government has no right to
tell a business what it can / cannot do. Employement is a
private contract between the person providing the labor and
the person requiring the labor. The idea of \'benefits\' is
a fallout of the imperious FDR era when he froze wages
during WWII. Companies found that offering benefits in lieu
of wages helped attract better candidates. Nowadays people
feel entitled to \'benefits\' even though there\'s no real
benefit. It\'s calculated as a part of a total compensation
package. Only a government bureaucrat --likely someone who
has zero experience in private enterprise-- could come up
with an asinine concept like \'paid sick time\'. It only
plays well in the press & with those who went to public
school.
September 1, 2008, 9:09 am
\"The unfortunate reality is that too
many
businesses that COULD give paid sick days refuse to./>John hit the nail on the head with pointing out Wal-Mart
as
one of them. They certainly will not go out of
business by
allowing employees to have paid sick days.
\"
Nobody puts a gun to the head of
employees at Wal-Mart. They work under the conditions that
Wal-Mart has set. If they want \'sick days\' or whatever,
they\'re free to look for other work. Since I\'m not an
investor and have no financial stake in Wal-Mart, it is none
of my or business to tell Wal-Mart what they can &
can\'t do. If I object to their practices, then I vote with
my wallet and take my business elsewhere. This idea that we
can/should use the police power of government to force our
will on others has got to stop! What ever became of
individual liberty and individual choice?
many
businesses that COULD give paid sick days refuse to.
as
one of them. They certainly will not go out of
business by
allowing employees to have paid sick days.
\"
Nobody puts a gun to the head of
employees at Wal-Mart. They work under the conditions that
Wal-Mart has set. If they want \'sick days\' or whatever,
they\'re free to look for other work. Since I\'m not an
investor and have no financial stake in Wal-Mart, it is none
of my or business to tell Wal-Mart what they can &
can\'t do. If I object to their practices, then I vote with
my wallet and take my business elsewhere. This idea that we
can/should use the police power of government to force our
will on others has got to stop! What ever became of
individual liberty and individual choice?
September 1, 2008, 9:16 am
I agree with squirrely, if everyone was honest it might
work, but instead, it just helps all the lazy people who
need to be fired but can\'t because of unions.
work, but instead, it just helps all the lazy people who
need to be fired but can\'t because of unions.
September 1, 2008, 10:31 am
Richard from MTV, if you are the boss of this company, that
is scary. You can\'t even type/spell words correctly, maybe
you should be cut! Or sent to college. duh.
is scary. You can\'t even type/spell words correctly, maybe
you should be cut! Or sent to college. duh.
September 1, 2008, 10:35 am
Maybe...the only way that employees would not take
advantage of this privilege is if a Drs excuse has to be
provided with the time off. If your employees can not
provide this, then I say... hit the road jack...
advantage of this privilege is if a Drs excuse has to be
provided with the time off. If your employees can not
provide this, then I say... hit the road jack...
September 1, 2008, 9:49 pm
What ever the absentee policy is you have people abuse the
policy. They will play the game. As long as they stay within
the rules. It isnt the union that protect them its the
company policys.
policy. They will play the game. As long as they stay within
the rules. It isnt the union that protect them its the
company policys.
September 1, 2008, 10:12 pm
To FairBenefitsBeliever & JPE. Under our current
government/business model, the government rewards business
for offering competitive care to its employees. In return,
the burden of health care is shifted away from the
government. Since you are as adamant that this will be a
bad policy for business, does this mean that you believe
health care should be shouldered by the government? After
all, we all know that healthcare is expensive and, under the
current model, government relies on business to provide for
its workers. If you follow a principle \"light
government\" then surely you must appreciate that if
employees do not have these benefits, they have to rely on
the government, which means further government expansion and
increasing taxes and burdens for everybody. We all agree
that healthcare is not cheap, so this is at least one, small
measure that can help ensure the health and common good of
the public.
It is sad that paid sick leave is not
considred \"competitive\" and it is even sadder
that such a measure has to make its way to the ballot in
order to make irresponsible corporations and businesses
accountable. Besides, do you appreciate it when your
business rewards its employees for accomplishing business
goals? Perhaps as a business owner, if you do not like this
policy, maybe you may want to consider offering incentive to
your workers for not taking sicks days when not sick?
Lastly, food for thought, tell a mother putting food on her
table by working at Wal-Mart that there are better jobs,
when she lost her better job to outsourcing and the
\"global\" economy. In short, business is leaving
Ohio for other reasons than having to offer a higher minimun
wage and paid sick leave. If you have any doubts about
that, go look at main street and the industrial parks in
most communities and their stories are apparent. The ghosts
of bad business more concerned about Wall Street than Main
Street reaks of a capitalistic market that has been badly
bruised by irresponsibility at the business level. I\'m
pro-business, but there are better ways to go about
increasing business profits that create a win/win/win
situation for employers, employees and governement.
government/business model, the government rewards business
for offering competitive care to its employees. In return,
the burden of health care is shifted away from the
government. Since you are as adamant that this will be a
bad policy for business, does this mean that you believe
health care should be shouldered by the government? After
all, we all know that healthcare is expensive and, under the
current model, government relies on business to provide for
its workers. If you follow a principle \"light
government\" then surely you must appreciate that if
employees do not have these benefits, they have to rely on
the government, which means further government expansion and
increasing taxes and burdens for everybody. We all agree
that healthcare is not cheap, so this is at least one, small
measure that can help ensure the health and common good of
the public.
It is sad that paid sick leave is not
considred \"competitive\" and it is even sadder
that such a measure has to make its way to the ballot in
order to make irresponsible corporations and businesses
accountable. Besides, do you appreciate it when your
business rewards its employees for accomplishing business
goals? Perhaps as a business owner, if you do not like this
policy, maybe you may want to consider offering incentive to
your workers for not taking sicks days when not sick?
Lastly, food for thought, tell a mother putting food on her
table by working at Wal-Mart that there are better jobs,
when she lost her better job to outsourcing and the
\"global\" economy. In short, business is leaving
Ohio for other reasons than having to offer a higher minimun
wage and paid sick leave. If you have any doubts about
that, go look at main street and the industrial parks in
most communities and their stories are apparent. The ghosts
of bad business more concerned about Wall Street than Main
Street reaks of a capitalistic market that has been badly
bruised by irresponsibility at the business level. I\'m
pro-business, but there are better ways to go about
increasing business profits that create a win/win/win
situation for employers, employees and governement.
September 1, 2008, 10:57 pm
Required sick pay will only put further strain on small
business owners. Employees want more, more, more, for less,
less, less. They want better health coverage and required
sick pay, it just does not work. Remember everyone the idea
of owning a business is to make money for the business owner
who takes all the risk associated with owning the business.
Owning a business is not done to provide handouts for
employees. They are paid a fair wage for an honest days
work. If the employee does not like the working conditions
then they should find another job. Too many people today
think they are entitled to issues like this. Issues like
this are why the government is broke because in the private
sector it does not work in a smart business model.
Governments continue to throw money at a policy that is
financially irresponsible.
business owners. Employees want more, more, more, for less,
less, less. They want better health coverage and required
sick pay, it just does not work. Remember everyone the idea
of owning a business is to make money for the business owner
who takes all the risk associated with owning the business.
Owning a business is not done to provide handouts for
employees. They are paid a fair wage for an honest days
work. If the employee does not like the working conditions
then they should find another job. Too many people today
think they are entitled to issues like this. Issues like
this are why the government is broke because in the private
sector it does not work in a smart business model.
Governments continue to throw money at a policy that is
financially irresponsible.
September 1, 2008, 10:58 pm
Let\'s keep the government, be it local, state, or the Feds
out of it! A business should give whatever benefits it
wants, and working folks can either stay or go. I agree with
\"A\", Richard from MTV needs some help with
spelling! I\'m glad he\'s not MY boss!!
out of it! A business should give whatever benefits it
wants, and working folks can either stay or go. I agree with
\"A\", Richard from MTV needs some help with
spelling! I\'m glad he\'s not MY boss!!
September 2, 2008, 7:34 am
Mandatory sick time should be required by companies with a
certain amount of employees and who also net a certain
amount of profit per year.
Wal-mart in general should
be mandated under this type of legislature and used as an
example. Obviously small business would be exempt from this
due to employment and profit numbers. If Wal-mart or other
large corporations want to push out small business then they
should be held accountable and give these employees what the
small businesses they pushed out of our communities could
not.
I also think that PAID Sick Time should
not be given from the start, it should be earned through
giving the company 6 months to a years service first. At
that point it can be built upon as years of service build.
It is easy to tell these people to go somewhere else, that
is just not an easy option as it is for most of us. At some
point our blinders need to be removed and we need to realize
that slowly but surely, we are being pushed into the same
position as these people.(AWAY FROM THE MIDDLE) This is
just another reason to mandate these companies who thrive on
taking jobs from our communities and country.
A
large majority of people look down there noses at
individuals for working at Wal-mart or any other type of low
experience employment. They are putting in the effort and
are working, which is more then can be said for growing
percentage of people in our communities. They are trying
and stressing like the rest of us. Remember that! They are
actually probably stressing more.
Continue to be closed
minded and judgmental, you\'ll be next!
certain amount of employees and who also net a certain
amount of profit per year.
Wal-mart in general should
be mandated under this type of legislature and used as an
example. Obviously small business would be exempt from this
due to employment and profit numbers. If Wal-mart or other
large corporations want to push out small business then they
should be held accountable and give these employees what the
small businesses they pushed out of our communities could
not.
I also think that PAID Sick Time should
not be given from the start, it should be earned through
giving the company 6 months to a years service first. At
that point it can be built upon as years of service build.
It is easy to tell these people to go somewhere else, that
is just not an easy option as it is for most of us. At some
point our blinders need to be removed and we need to realize
that slowly but surely, we are being pushed into the same
position as these people.(AWAY FROM THE MIDDLE) This is
just another reason to mandate these companies who thrive on
taking jobs from our communities and country.
A
large majority of people look down there noses at
individuals for working at Wal-mart or any other type of low
experience employment. They are putting in the effort and
are working, which is more then can be said for growing
percentage of people in our communities. They are trying
and stressing like the rest of us. Remember that! They are
actually probably stressing more.
Continue to be closed
minded and judgmental, you\'ll be next!
September 2, 2008, 9:41 am
\"does this mean that you believe
health care
should be shouldered by the government?\"
/>Health care costs should be shouldered, as you say, by the
individual, not by the government or an employeer. The best
fix to America\'s health care problems is to get the
government out and let the free market do its magic./>
\" business is leaving
Ohio for other
reasons than having to offer a higher minimun
wage and
paid sick leave\"
I\'d contend it has as
much to do with the tax burden imposed on business by the
state and local governments and the difficulty in dealing
with deeply entrenched unions.
\"The
ghosts
of bad business more concerned about Wall Street
than Main
Street reaks of a capitalistic market that
has been badly
bruised by irresponsibility at the
business level. I\'m
pro-business, but there are better
ways to go about
increasing business profits that
create a win/win/win
situation for employers, employees
and governement.\"
Did you get that out of
an Obama ad? The best thing for people is individual
liberty, individual choice, and free markets. Read some of
the fine treasties on Austrian economics at www.mises.org
out of Auburn University.
health care
should be shouldered by the government?\"
individual, not by the government or an employeer. The best
fix to America\'s health care problems is to get the
government out and let the free market do its magic.
\" business is leaving
Ohio for other
reasons than having to offer a higher minimun
wage and
paid sick leave\"
I\'d contend it has as
much to do with the tax burden imposed on business by the
state and local governments and the difficulty in dealing
with deeply entrenched unions.
\"The
ghosts
of bad business more concerned about Wall Street
than Main
Street reaks of a capitalistic market that
has been badly
bruised by irresponsibility at the
business level. I\'m
pro-business, but there are better
ways to go about
increasing business profits that
create a win/win/win
situation for employers, employees
and governement.\"
Did you get that out of
an Obama ad? The best thing for people is individual
liberty, individual choice, and free markets. Read some of
the fine treasties on Austrian economics at www.mises.org
out of Auburn University.
September 2, 2008, 10:34 am
I believe it is a very bad idea. I think it will cause one
of two things to happen.
Employers will take away
vacation time or jobs will be done away with so companies
can make thier budget. Companies are in business to make a
profit. No profit no business.
of two things to happen.
Employers will take away
vacation time or jobs will be done away with so companies
can make thier budget. Companies are in business to make a
profit. No profit no business.
September 2, 2008, 11:58 am
I feel that a person should accrue paid sick leave. Not just
handed to them...EARN IT!!!!
TERRI
handed to them...EARN IT!!!!
TERRI
September 2, 2008, 2:14 pm
The government should not be involved.
September 2, 2008, 2:36 pm
I FEEL PEOPLE OR EMPLOYEES SHOULD HAVE SICK DAYS . I FEEL
YOU EARN IT WHEN YOU WORK HARD EVRY DAY FOR 8 HRS OR
12HRS.ESPECIALLY WHEN MOST PEOPLE LIKE ME WORK 2 JOBS.
YOU EARN IT WHEN YOU WORK HARD EVRY DAY FOR 8 HRS OR
12HRS.ESPECIALLY WHEN MOST PEOPLE LIKE ME WORK 2 JOBS.
September 2, 2008, 3:22 pm
after reading many of the comments below, i know realize
that most of you have NO IDEA what your talking about./>
Paid sick would put a strain on some small business
owners. Companies do not fail because of the government
makes paid sick leave mandatory. Companies fail because they
are poorly run or do not provide a service that is needed.
For those of you who are voting for john mccain.
please remember this. The economy is in shambles. We have
the largest gap in wealth that we have had since the great
depression. If you think for one second that the tax cut he
is proposing will help our economy, then you are dead wrong.
I have read over this proposal for offering paid
sick leave. There are some things i would change, but in all
this benifits us the workers. and it helps the working
class. which if im not mistaken is most of knox county./>
that most of you have NO IDEA what your talking about.
Paid sick would put a strain on some small business
owners. Companies do not fail because of the government
makes paid sick leave mandatory. Companies fail because they
are poorly run or do not provide a service that is needed.
For those of you who are voting for john mccain.
please remember this. The economy is in shambles. We have
the largest gap in wealth that we have had since the great
depression. If you think for one second that the tax cut he
is proposing will help our economy, then you are dead wrong.
I have read over this proposal for offering paid
sick leave. There are some things i would change, but in all
this benifits us the workers. and it helps the working
class. which if im not mistaken is most of knox county.
September 2, 2008, 5:28 pm
It\'s interesting that this issue has come up. A nice
website that really does a good job of summing up what this
is all about, as well as the pros and cons of the issue can
be found at
http://www.sickdaysohio.org/2008/07/states_consider.php/>
In all honesty, a vast majority of business offers
sick time because it is good business sense to take care of
the people who take care of you.
Before the
Depression, President Hoover ran his business with
integrity, pride and accountability and he made great sums
of money doing it. Very few people know, or remember that
President Hoover never actually accepted his Presidential
Salary and retirement, instead choosing to donating all of
it to charity. However, it was all the bad businesses who
refused to show the business integrity that President Hoover
did as a businessman that arguibly created the Depression.
Hoover was appalled by what he found and tried to fix it.
However, the damage was already done and as we all know, FDR
was voted in.
Regardless of what you think about
my linking history to modern issues, I think there is a
great metaphore in tid bit of history. A few poorly ran
companies that practiced sweatshop mentalities and more
concerned about Wall Street than Main Street ruined it for
the ones that took great strides in making sure they had the
happiest, most productive workforce in their industry./>
Whether you are for, or against this measure, please
ask yourself this question; how would want to be treated if
you, or a family member were sick and you HAD to stay
home?
My personal concern is will the companies
that offer a generous paid sick leave program change their
policies to be more aligned with the state proprosed
mandate. After all, this will then become a
\"competitive\" issue that will hurt more than it
will help.
website that really does a good job of summing up what this
is all about, as well as the pros and cons of the issue can
be found at
http://www.sickdaysohio.org/2008/07/states_consider.php
In all honesty, a vast majority of business offers
sick time because it is good business sense to take care of
the people who take care of you.
Before the
Depression, President Hoover ran his business with
integrity, pride and accountability and he made great sums
of money doing it. Very few people know, or remember that
President Hoover never actually accepted his Presidential
Salary and retirement, instead choosing to donating all of
it to charity. However, it was all the bad businesses who
refused to show the business integrity that President Hoover
did as a businessman that arguibly created the Depression.
Hoover was appalled by what he found and tried to fix it.
However, the damage was already done and as we all know, FDR
was voted in.
Regardless of what you think about
my linking history to modern issues, I think there is a
great metaphore in tid bit of history. A few poorly ran
companies that practiced sweatshop mentalities and more
concerned about Wall Street than Main Street ruined it for
the ones that took great strides in making sure they had the
happiest, most productive workforce in their industry.
Whether you are for, or against this measure, please
ask yourself this question; how would want to be treated if
you, or a family member were sick and you HAD to stay
home?
My personal concern is will the companies
that offer a generous paid sick leave program change their
policies to be more aligned with the state proprosed
mandate. After all, this will then become a
\"competitive\" issue that will hurt more than it
will help.
September 2, 2008, 7:51 pm
As a businessman I can tell you that giving forced sick time
to employees is a bad idea especially in Mount Vernon. The
people here will just take advantage of their benevolent
boss because they will do anything to stay home and avoid
work. Work for awhile to prove you\'re not one the many lazy
people and perhaps your boss will grant you time off. Earn
it don\'t just expect it. -Roland
to employees is a bad idea especially in Mount Vernon. The
people here will just take advantage of their benevolent
boss because they will do anything to stay home and avoid
work. Work for awhile to prove you\'re not one the many lazy
people and perhaps your boss will grant you time off. Earn
it don\'t just expect it. -Roland
September 2, 2008, 7:59 pm
Roland,
From the negative comments you expressed
concerning the local employees, and in particular the
employees you have aparently hiredin your business,it sounds
like the problem you have experienced is not the employees
but how much you pay them and how well you treat them. I
feel certain you have already gained a poor repitation
amoung potential employees in the community as not being a
job you can expect appreciation for your work and trust from
your employer. From what you just said I certainly would
not want to work for you for whatever you do, nor would I
consider that it would be a rewarding I would want to come
to work everyday. Consider your attitude towards your
employees and how that reflects on their self esteem and
thier work ethic. Encourage your employees by example and
praise when a job is well done. By doing so will also
reflect eventually in your bottom line.
From the negative comments you expressed
concerning the local employees, and in particular the
employees you have aparently hiredin your business,it sounds
like the problem you have experienced is not the employees
but how much you pay them and how well you treat them. I
feel certain you have already gained a poor repitation
amoung potential employees in the community as not being a
job you can expect appreciation for your work and trust from
your employer. From what you just said I certainly would
not want to work for you for whatever you do, nor would I
consider that it would be a rewarding I would want to come
to work everyday. Consider your attitude towards your
employees and how that reflects on their self esteem and
thier work ethic. Encourage your employees by example and
praise when a job is well done. By doing so will also
reflect eventually in your bottom line.
September 2, 2008, 10:39 pm
i think depending on the size of the business, whether or
not it\'s a sole owner or a corporation you should have the
choice. Most small business owners do not have the overhead
or the money to pay out into sicktime. I work for a large
corporation and i have sick time. But In the last 10 years I
have earned my 6 days of sick per year. Since it rolls over
i save mine. You never know when you may have to use it. I
don\'t think by giving sick time that people will avoid
work. Alot of folks have kids, at least there is protection
if you have to have a day off due to a kids illness. It\'s
not like daycares will take them sick.
not it\'s a sole owner or a corporation you should have the
choice. Most small business owners do not have the overhead
or the money to pay out into sicktime. I work for a large
corporation and i have sick time. But In the last 10 years I
have earned my 6 days of sick per year. Since it rolls over
i save mine. You never know when you may have to use it. I
don\'t think by giving sick time that people will avoid
work. Alot of folks have kids, at least there is protection
if you have to have a day off due to a kids illness. It\'s
not like daycares will take them sick.
September 3, 2008, 11:37 am
If all businesses are force to pay mandated sick days, it
will cripple the state of Ohio. Future business will not
want to invest here and established businesses will want to
relocate. We are the only state in the Nation to have this
issue at this time.
will cripple the state of Ohio. Future business will not
want to invest here and established businesses will want to
relocate. We are the only state in the Nation to have this
issue at this time.
September 3, 2008, 11:38 am
How sad that we live in a state where empolyers have to be
mandated to do the right thing. Just one of the many
reasons people are moving out in droves. Stingy,
short-sighted employers equals unhappy employees. On the
other side of the fence, we must live in a place where lazy
people have caused employers to have no faith in their
staff.
mandated to do the right thing. Just one of the many
reasons people are moving out in droves. Stingy,
short-sighted employers equals unhappy employees. On the
other side of the fence, we must live in a place where lazy
people have caused employers to have no faith in their
staff.
September 3, 2008, 12:55 pm
Hey! Let\'s get better work benefits so what do we do? We
get a bunch of signatures and get the people to vote on it.
I don\'t want to work on Mondays or Fridays. All I need is
some signatures and then we can make it law. Lets make our
employers pay all our health insurance all we need is a
bunch of signatures and we can get what we want. If a
company wants to give you sick time, then thats their choice
and yours for working for them. No law should be mandated
by the general population to give employees better benefits.
Take minimum wage--now minimum wage goes up by the rate of
inflation which could be driving up inflation.
get a bunch of signatures and get the people to vote on it.
I don\'t want to work on Mondays or Fridays. All I need is
some signatures and then we can make it law. Lets make our
employers pay all our health insurance all we need is a
bunch of signatures and we can get what we want. If a
company wants to give you sick time, then thats their choice
and yours for working for them. No law should be mandated
by the general population to give employees better benefits.
Take minimum wage--now minimum wage goes up by the rate of
inflation which could be driving up inflation.
September 3, 2008, 12:59 pm
It should be the law! I\'ve been able to be on workers comp
for 3 years now. Eventually I\'ll have to go back to work.
Part of the reason I got injured was because my boss
wouldn\'t let me take any additional time off. Maybe if my
new job is forced to give me extra vacation I wouldn\'t have
to file for workers comp.
for 3 years now. Eventually I\'ll have to go back to work.
Part of the reason I got injured was because my boss
wouldn\'t let me take any additional time off. Maybe if my
new job is forced to give me extra vacation I wouldn\'t have
to file for workers comp.
September 3, 2008, 2:46 pm
Well im glad to see that MTV has learned throughout the
years that minimum wage is driving up inflation. are you
KIDDING me!!!!!! only someone from this town would think of
something so insane.
We need better policies for
our economy. that will stop inflation. as for businesses
being required to offer sick leave. It is an amazing idea.
God forbid you would want your employer to take care of you
if something happens. sick leave should be a benifit that
all employees recieve.
years that minimum wage is driving up inflation. are you
KIDDING me!!!!!! only someone from this town would think of
something so insane.
We need better policies for
our economy. that will stop inflation. as for businesses
being required to offer sick leave. It is an amazing idea.
God forbid you would want your employer to take care of you
if something happens. sick leave should be a benifit that
all employees recieve.
September 3, 2008, 3:44 pm
people that have vacation waste it now. Give them seven
more days they will waste that too. Oh dont forget to abuse
fmla to. Employers are struggling to keep in the green now.
Now make them give 7 sick days paid and where do you think
that money will come from? Well you insurance will go up to
help cover cost, so you\'ll be crying about that next. Then
if you got a bonus , you might as well kiss that good-bye.
So the bottom line is employers cant afford to give up
anymore right now. So when you company or business is no
longer there, have fun finding a new job. The problem is we
are lazy and we just want, want, want more.. Until that
changes we\'ll have stupid ideas like this..
more days they will waste that too. Oh dont forget to abuse
fmla to. Employers are struggling to keep in the green now.
Now make them give 7 sick days paid and where do you think
that money will come from? Well you insurance will go up to
help cover cost, so you\'ll be crying about that next. Then
if you got a bonus , you might as well kiss that good-bye.
So the bottom line is employers cant afford to give up
anymore right now. So when you company or business is no
longer there, have fun finding a new job. The problem is we
are lazy and we just want, want, want more.. Until that
changes we\'ll have stupid ideas like this..
September 4, 2008, 12:14 am
go bucks from amity, maybe you ought to go back to college
and economics 101 to realize that raising minimum wage only
increases the basic costs of everything. duh! I wonder the
poverty level went up the same percentage as inflation?
Hmmmm.
and economics 101 to realize that raising minimum wage only
increases the basic costs of everything. duh! I wonder the
poverty level went up the same percentage as inflation?
Hmmmm.
September 4, 2008, 11:07 am
Wow D.C. you sound awfully bitter about ANY benifits being
given to ANYONE! I can tell you from personal experience,
that when I had a job that offered vacation days, the only
time I used my vacation for a vacation was when I got
married. All my other vacation days, for over 5 years, were
used for sick leave or doctors appointments. I\'m going to
guess you don\'t believe in equal employment either. I was
lucky enough that my employer at the time had the benifits
it did so I could get better when I was sick to be - of all
things - A BETTER EMPLOYEE WHEN I WAS HEALTHY!!!
Unfortunately, I know many good employees that have lost
decent jobs because of either personal or family illnesses
(aka children or elderly parents) because they did not even
have simple sick days let alone vacation or, God forbid,
FMLA.
I hope by the graces of God you do not have to
face a situation like that personally... or maybe you should
so you can see why it is so important.
Not all
employees who use sick days are lazy or think they are
simply owed these things. Many are very dedicated workers,
whether or not they like their employers, but have hard
times they cannot control. All any one is asking for is that
employers treat their employees with the same dedication.
Also, since the state of Ohio is an \"at will\"
state, employers don\'t have to have a reason to fire some
one if they don\'t think that person is doing their job.
Keep that in mind with all those saying how bad sick leave
will be for their businesses.
This may have sounded
harsh, but has needed to be said. I wish no harm or ill will
on anyone who has been lucky enough to not need these
benifits, but there are many who do and for legitimate
reasons. Think about it from some one else\'s point of view
rather than just your own. Employees are not being selfish,
they just want fairness.
given to ANYONE! I can tell you from personal experience,
that when I had a job that offered vacation days, the only
time I used my vacation for a vacation was when I got
married. All my other vacation days, for over 5 years, were
used for sick leave or doctors appointments. I\'m going to
guess you don\'t believe in equal employment either. I was
lucky enough that my employer at the time had the benifits
it did so I could get better when I was sick to be - of all
things - A BETTER EMPLOYEE WHEN I WAS HEALTHY!!!
Unfortunately, I know many good employees that have lost
decent jobs because of either personal or family illnesses
(aka children or elderly parents) because they did not even
have simple sick days let alone vacation or, God forbid,
FMLA.
I hope by the graces of God you do not have to
face a situation like that personally... or maybe you should
so you can see why it is so important.
Not all
employees who use sick days are lazy or think they are
simply owed these things. Many are very dedicated workers,
whether or not they like their employers, but have hard
times they cannot control. All any one is asking for is that
employers treat their employees with the same dedication.
Also, since the state of Ohio is an \"at will\"
state, employers don\'t have to have a reason to fire some
one if they don\'t think that person is doing their job.
Keep that in mind with all those saying how bad sick leave
will be for their businesses.
This may have sounded
harsh, but has needed to be said. I wish no harm or ill will
on anyone who has been lucky enough to not need these
benifits, but there are many who do and for legitimate
reasons. Think about it from some one else\'s point of view
rather than just your own. Employees are not being selfish,
they just want fairness.
September 4, 2008, 11:49 am
I would first like to say that some of you may need to first
write your comment in Microsoft Word before you post it, as
you have many spelling and grammar issues. When speaking of
issues like this, and claiming to be business owners, you
may want to look a little more professional than you are
presenting yourselves.
Secondly, for those small
business owners claiming that you will not be able to pay
for sick time, please research the laws already set in place
for Employee relations. Most of the laws are not required
unless your business has a certain number of employees./>
Thirdly, you also may want to look at the website
that was previously mentioned on this forum:
http://www.sickdaysohio.org/2008/07/states_consider.php.
This speaks of OTHER STATES that are considering this law.
Ohio is not the only state that is trying to make work
conditions better for their people. There are other states
that have employee laws that Ohio does not. Some states
require that all employees get a paid hour lunch
(California). There are other countries (mostly European)
that require not only for their employers to offer paid sick
time and vacation, but also for the employees to TAKE the
vacation. They believe that this will make their people
happier and healthier. I currently work for a company that
offers paid vacation, and personal days after earning it.
The company requires that at least one full week of vacation
is taken per year. The personal days are to be used for
specific reasons, and if it is found that they were used
incorrectly than that can be a reason for disciplinary
action. I am lucky to work for a company that offers this,
and feel that it is on the lower end of benefits. I do not
expect to be given these days for no reason, but I do expect
to receive them for working diligently for the company. It
is sad that states are going to have to place a law in
effect to make sure that all employees can receive these
benefits.
To JPE from Fredericktown, to believe
that things like this idea will only play well for the media
and those who went to public school is completely ASININE,
just because you went to a public school, whether you mean
high school or college, does not mean that you will no idea
about economics, government, ideals of society, and the
general way that things work. I went to public school. I
know about these things. I also went to a TECHNICAL college,
and then to a PRIVATE college to finish my degree. I
sometime believe that I may have gotten more knowledge from
the technical college rather than the private college even
in the same subject matter, so do not tell me that what type
of school it is makes a difference on the knowledge that can
be learned. You have just shown you ability to be rude and
to offend people you do not even know, with only your
opinion.
write your comment in Microsoft Word before you post it, as
you have many spelling and grammar issues. When speaking of
issues like this, and claiming to be business owners, you
may want to look a little more professional than you are
presenting yourselves.
Secondly, for those small
business owners claiming that you will not be able to pay
for sick time, please research the laws already set in place
for Employee relations. Most of the laws are not required
unless your business has a certain number of employees.
Thirdly, you also may want to look at the website
that was previously mentioned on this forum:
http://www.sickdaysohio.org/2008/07/states_consider.php.
This speaks of OTHER STATES that are considering this law.
Ohio is not the only state that is trying to make work
conditions better for their people. There are other states
that have employee laws that Ohio does not. Some states
require that all employees get a paid hour lunch
(California). There are other countries (mostly European)
that require not only for their employers to offer paid sick
time and vacation, but also for the employees to TAKE the
vacation. They believe that this will make their people
happier and healthier. I currently work for a company that
offers paid vacation, and personal days after earning it.
The company requires that at least one full week of vacation
is taken per year. The personal days are to be used for
specific reasons, and if it is found that they were used
incorrectly than that can be a reason for disciplinary
action. I am lucky to work for a company that offers this,
and feel that it is on the lower end of benefits. I do not
expect to be given these days for no reason, but I do expect
to receive them for working diligently for the company. It
is sad that states are going to have to place a law in
effect to make sure that all employees can receive these
benefits.
To JPE from Fredericktown, to believe
that things like this idea will only play well for the media
and those who went to public school is completely ASININE,
just because you went to a public school, whether you mean
high school or college, does not mean that you will no idea
about economics, government, ideals of society, and the
general way that things work. I went to public school. I
know about these things. I also went to a TECHNICAL college,
and then to a PRIVATE college to finish my degree. I
sometime believe that I may have gotten more knowledge from
the technical college rather than the private college even
in the same subject matter, so do not tell me that what type
of school it is makes a difference on the knowledge that can
be learned. You have just shown you ability to be rude and
to offend people you do not even know, with only your
opinion.
September 4, 2008, 1:41 pm
Required paid sick time is dead. The issue will be removed
from the ballot.
from the ballot.
September 4, 2008, 6:06 pm
Well....
What is the point of a minimum wage if
that wage being earned doesnt even keep you above the
poverty line?
The minimum wage has a little
effect on the economy of this country it is silly that you
even metioned it.
By cutting taxes to the
wealthy, and using china\'s credit card to fund a war in
iraq. We have set our country up for economic disaster./>
Healthy employees are better employees
What is the point of a minimum wage if
that wage being earned doesnt even keep you above the
poverty line?
The minimum wage has a little
effect on the economy of this country it is silly that you
even metioned it.
By cutting taxes to the
wealthy, and using china\'s credit card to fund a war in
iraq. We have set our country up for economic disaster.
Healthy employees are better employees
September 4, 2008, 6:31 pm
After thinking about it, paid sick time might be a good
idea. I can go out and get rip roaring drunk and get paid
for sobering up the next day.
idea. I can go out and get rip roaring drunk and get paid
for sobering up the next day.
September 4, 2008, 7:15 pm
SAMANTHA FROM MTV look at jay from MTV . I rest my
case...............
case...............
September 5, 2008, 12:15 am
I think its about time! People do get sick and the company
doesn\'t like it, let alone paying for the sick day.
doesn\'t like it, let alone paying for the sick day.
September 5, 2008, 5:47 am
All these negative comments ... it\'s sad to see that the
progressive spirit has been beaten out of the people who
need it the most. It\'s amazing how the Republican Party has
convinced people in communities like Mount Vernon to say,
\"No, these measures that would protect and help me ARE
WRONG!\"
progressive spirit has been beaten out of the people who
need it the most. It\'s amazing how the Republican Party has
convinced people in communities like Mount Vernon to say,
\"No, these measures that would protect and help me ARE
WRONG!\"
September 5, 2008, 11:12 am
Robyn, scott with love, Debra Doane, and Adam - Finally!
People who \'get it\' and aren\'t afraid to speak up for
what\'s right for the majority of the population!
DC,
idiots like Jay who want to abuse a good system to make
their personal points will always exist, but employers
aren\'t as stupid as he\'s trying to make everyone think
they are. He would get cought nursing his hang over on a
weekday and either reprimaded, terminated, or placed in
rehab. They are also the reason a lot of companies that once
had benifits like sick days at one point in time stopped
giving them because the few decided to go and screw it up
for the many who weren\'t abusing it. I\'ve seen it
personnaly in previous jobs I\'ve held, and it causes the
emplyers to treat employees like children by punnishing the
good to make a point to the bad ones. Jay, wake up and get a
clue. Sick days, when used as they should be, are just as
much a benifit to you as they are to anyone else. Employees
who abuse the policies should be terminated, and were I a
business owner, you would be first if you pulled a stunt
like that and work got back to me your illness was a hang
over.
People who \'get it\' and aren\'t afraid to speak up for
what\'s right for the majority of the population!
DC,
idiots like Jay who want to abuse a good system to make
their personal points will always exist, but employers
aren\'t as stupid as he\'s trying to make everyone think
they are. He would get cought nursing his hang over on a
weekday and either reprimaded, terminated, or placed in
rehab. They are also the reason a lot of companies that once
had benifits like sick days at one point in time stopped
giving them because the few decided to go and screw it up
for the many who weren\'t abusing it. I\'ve seen it
personnaly in previous jobs I\'ve held, and it causes the
emplyers to treat employees like children by punnishing the
good to make a point to the bad ones. Jay, wake up and get a
clue. Sick days, when used as they should be, are just as
much a benifit to you as they are to anyone else. Employees
who abuse the policies should be terminated, and were I a
business owner, you would be first if you pulled a stunt
like that and work got back to me your illness was a hang
over.
September 5, 2008, 11:51 am
I guess I flushed all the liberals out. LOL.
Jay
doesn\'t drink. I wanted to see the reactions to my comment.
It\'s pbvious many people here want to live in a nanny
state. (socialist)
Jay
doesn\'t drink. I wanted to see the reactions to my comment.
It\'s pbvious many people here want to live in a nanny
state. (socialist)
September 5, 2008, 2:07 pm
There are still people out there with a strong work ethic
who are working their tails off for their employer. Then one
day, they catch the flu from their kid and can\'t afford to
miss, but have to. No pay. Sure. Some people will abuse
the system, but if they are going to, they probably already
do in some way. Does that mean we never reward the
hard-working people with our policies?
who are working their tails off for their employer. Then one
day, they catch the flu from their kid and can\'t afford to
miss, but have to. No pay. Sure. Some people will abuse
the system, but if they are going to, they probably already
do in some way. Does that mean we never reward the
hard-working people with our policies?
September 5, 2008, 2:28 pm
I repeat. The law requiring paid sick leave is dead. It has
been removed from the ballot. If you want paid sick leave I
suggest working out a plan with your employer. Keep the
government and nonemployees out of it. Never ever let the
camel get his nose in the tent. You won\'t like the results.
been removed from the ballot. If you want paid sick leave I
suggest working out a plan with your employer. Keep the
government and nonemployees out of it. Never ever let the
camel get his nose in the tent. You won\'t like the results.
September 5, 2008, 2:46 pm
Jay.
your a moron.
your a moron.
September 5, 2008, 3:23 pm
I\'m Jay\'s ex-wife and I can tell you he hasn\'t had a job
in over 3 years so all his talk about work ethic is a bunch
of bull.
in over 3 years so all his talk about work ethic is a bunch
of bull.
September 5, 2008, 4:26 pm
Linda
You\'re right. I haven\'t worked in over 3
years. I had a heart attack and retired over 5 years ago.
BTW - you sure as h--l ain\'t my ex.
You\'re right. I haven\'t worked in over 3
years. I had a heart attack and retired over 5 years ago.
BTW - you sure as h--l ain\'t my ex.
September 5, 2008, 6:26 pm
Submitted by to jay with love From mtv, oh
Jay.
your a moron.
You may be right. :-)Who are you?
Jay.
your a moron.
You may be right. :-)Who are you?
September 5, 2008, 6:39 pm
sick leave will do to Ohio. We will lose many jobs, and
other jobs will be going to Michigan,Kentucky, Pa, etc. We
would be the only state with such a law. Businesses are
going to cut health insurance benefits, retirement benefits,
and MANY JOBS. It is a reciepe for HUGE ECONOMIC failure.
Gas prices will be the last of your concerns.